Minister of Science and Chief Protector of the Faith

Wednesday, December 05, 2007

Jeepers! Has Everybody Forgotten This Story?


Everybody is talking about the recent Bush conference and his idea that although the intelligence report that has been repressed for a year indicates that Iran halted its nuclear arms program in 2003, Bush insists that this means that Iran is more of a threat than ever.

Yes, I know that he is practicing doublespeak, I know that this is further evidence that nothing that the president says can be believed, I know that his saber rattling is a frightening indication that he wants to start another war, blah blah blah.

I am dumbfounded that nobody is talking about this quote as compared to a story that was buried about a year ago. The quote:

"Iran was dangerous, Iran is dangerous, and Iran will be dangerous if they have the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon," Bush told a White House news conference.

Hello!?!? Has everybody forgotten that Bush has already given the secrets of building an atomic bomb not only to Iran, but to every evil empire in the world? I remember when this story first broke. It's lifespan in the news cycle lasted from Friday afternoon to a Saturday morning. Supposedly the story was dropped because it was "unfair" and "too partisan" to run it because of the upcoming election.

A little over a year ago Bush put up a website that contained information that was captured in Iraq. Amongst this treasure trove the administration accidently overlooked part of the information that contained all of the secrets needed to build an atomic bomb. The website was called "Operation Iraqi Freedom Document Portal", which is of course no longer online. The damage is already done, however. Every intelligence agency in the world is constantly watching the White House website like a hawk. There can be no doubt that the nuclear secrets are now practically in the public domain.

The New York Times called the material a "nuclear primer' because it included about a dozen documents in Arabic that contained "charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that nuclear experts who have viewed them say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums. For instance, the papers give detailed information on how to build nuclear firing circuits and triggering explosives, as well as the radioactive cores of atom bombs." The fear was that these documents would give Iraq's nuclear secrets to Iran and thus aid the Iranian WMD program. Wikipedia

Bush put this website up without properly having it vetted by the CIA. Right wing bloggers pawed through it for months, trying to prove that the U.S. really did find evidence of WMD in Iraq.

After the story broke, the White House said that the story being printed was further evidence that the New York Times hated America, and that Bush was right all along about WMD's in Iraq. This was not true, however:

Many of the documents seem to make clear that Saddam's regime had given up on seeking a WMD capability by the mid-1990s. As AP reported, "Repeatedly in the transcripts, Saddam and his lieutenants remind each other that Iraq destroyed its chemical and biological weapons in the early 1990s, and shut down those programs and the nuclear-bomb program, which had never produced a weapon." At one 1996 presidential meeting, top weapons program official Amer Mohammed Rashid, describes his conversation with UN weapons inspector Rolf Ekeus: "We don't have anything to hide, so we're giving you all the details." At another meeting Saddam told his deputies, "We cooperated with the resolutions 100 percent and you all know that, and the 5 percent they claim we have not executed could take them 10 years to (verify). Don't think for a minute that we still have WMD. We have nothing."Wikipedia

This exchange actually took place on the November 3 edition of MSNBC News Live. I could not believe I was watching this on TV. It was like a some strange surrealistic nightmare. The president of the United States had just given the plans on how to build an atomic bomb to the whole freakin' world. Now I feel like everybody has forgotten the story.

When the president says, "Iran will be dangerous if they have the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon," Shouldn't somebody bring up this story? Loudly?


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At Wed Dec 05, 06:30:00 AM, Blogger Jess Wundrun said...

What an amazing post, it's not what the new story brought to my mind, but I'm glad you've recounted it here.

The worldwide "meh" given GW over being caught in a colossal lie is just too amazing.

At Wed Dec 05, 08:24:00 AM, Blogger BAC said...

Stories are released on Friday for a reason ... because anything released on a Friday is very likely to be overlooked by the media. It's the change-over day from weekday to weekend reporting teams. Things always fall through the cracks, and every elected official and CEO knows it!

This story does need to be told again, as do all the stories about how this administration (and others) have "aided the enemy."

We are told it's done to insure that every country in a region has the same capabilities, to avert war ... but it always seems to come back to bite us on the butt!

Thanks for posting this!


At Wed Dec 05, 10:13:00 AM, Blogger Life As I Know It Now said...

What an excellent post Dr. Z. And you are right, I had not heard about it the first time so it's good to know! Thanks for bringing the story out of the dark closet of forgotten history. It needs to be brought back kicking and screaming into the light of day.

At Wed Dec 05, 06:57:00 PM, Blogger Distributorcap said...

dr z
thanks for reminding everyone about this

we need to keep YELLING about bush and his lies and the damage this administration has done to the world

At Wed Dec 05, 07:10:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great catch, Sir. I had completely forgotten this. I think it was a Republican in the House or Senate that forced these pages to be released. And yes he did it because he did not beleive the weapons inspectors found nothing and wanted the Rep orc minions to find the link to Sadam's wmd. It was the next day that serious physicists and arms control experts realized that the nuke recipe had also been dumped and was available to everyone in the world with a modem.

I suggest every one who stops by here email the link to your other favorite liberal and news blogs. This needs to be screamed from the rooftops, again.

Kudos, DrZ.


At Wed Dec 05, 08:46:00 PM, Blogger Fran said...

Holy crap- wow. Thank you for this as I have only the vaguest recollection of it.

And I second what BAC said about the "Friday" factor.


At Thu Dec 06, 08:41:00 AM, Blogger Dr. Zaius said...

Jess Wundrun: The wall of disappointment that we all have for this administration has sort of taken the shine off of news like this, unfortunately. The public is not so much aghast at the news as they are used to the lies. It is just "another day, another lie" in Bush America, I fear.

Randal Graves: " You're Kidding Me, Right?"

I agree. The whole story has a "no, really - this really happened" quality about it. It sounds like some crackpot conspiracy theorist's story, but it's true!

BAC: Yes, I know about the Friday news release scam. At the time I just found it so disheartening that the story go buried. It was worse than if they had killed Lassie. And the way the story was presented! This really happened on MSNBC!

Liberality: I agree. I want to scream this story from the rooftops. When I tell people this story in preson, they never believe. I have show them links, and even then they look incredulous.

Wondertrash: Ack! President Bush makes Paris Hilton look good by comparison.

Distributorcap: I know! I want to scream this story from the rooftops.

Anonymous: Ms. Lorelei! How good of you to drop by. The story was actually dug up by the New York Times, who first warned the White House without printing it. The way I heard it, the White House ignored them, and left the info on the website up! Eventually the New York Times printed the story, reluctantly. Then the White House said that they were traitors for bringing it up! Ack!

FranIAm: Thanks, FranIAm! It bothers me how this story ha been forgotten.

At Thu Dec 06, 11:37:00 AM, Blogger Angry Ballerina said...

I think you just brought it up my friend.

(watch out for big brother, least all the other writers have to bail your ass outta some secret gov't lair some where.)

At Mon Dec 10, 07:42:00 AM, Blogger Dr. Zaius said...

Ack! Don't say that. You are freaking me out, Angry Ballerina.

At Mon Dec 10, 01:43:00 PM, Blogger Thursday said...

Heh - updating a post on attempted knowledge suppression now...

Not only is the idea of "If you know something, I'll kill you" insane, but supplying that information ahead of time is downright entrapment!

At Mon Dec 10, 10:55:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was the first thing I thought of when I heard Bush make that statement, and I was wondering if I had just imagined the whole thing when nobody else made the connection. Thanks Dr. Z for reaffirming my sanity.

At Tue Dec 11, 10:07:00 PM, Blogger Angry Ballerina said...

seems this party is gettin a bit outta control.

At Tue Dec 11, 10:18:00 PM, Blogger Dr. Zaius said...

All of the pathetic troll's comments have been removed. Thank you for bringing it to my attention, Angry Ballerina.

At Wed Dec 12, 02:07:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boy George said there was a monster, And then told us all that he can protect us from that monster, What more do we need?
It's almost like going to church.

At Thu Dec 13, 12:17:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't believe this because I have not seen it. Those plans are not even in the Washington, D.C. area but out some place in New Mexico and they are so highly classified that one can not get to them unless they have a NEED TO KNOW. I am sure there is no one in Washington that has a NEED TO KNOW so this is all false information and discredited by Snopes. The CIA would not have access to this information or could not get access to it. If such a plan were put on a web site it might be one that wouldn't work and may even backfire! BOOM!

At Mon Jun 16, 06:52:00 PM, Blogger wiley said...

Oh, Anonymous! (Was I ever that young?) Any country with an advanced physics department in a decent university has the knowledge to make a nuclear bomb. That's the easy part.

At Mon Jun 16, 07:11:00 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

I think you're very late on your announcing this as a "story" - read the book, Nuclear Jihad, about A.Q. Khan. He's the Pakistani engineer who created a comprehensive black market in the 1980/90's for enriching uranium that resulted in the following countries having the capacity to build a nuclear bomb: Pakistan, North Korea, Libya, Iraq, Iran, and possibly many others.

Albeit, Bush Jr. was still kicking around the oil industry when all this originally went down, he/we shouldn't be surprised at our piss-poor record of containing this knowledge - look to our past Presidents starting with Carter (and possibly even Nixon) to find the full story of blame

At Mon Jun 16, 07:17:00 PM, Blogger wiley said...

Please stop taking the bait about the sanctity of the "knowledge" to build nuclear weapons.

Issue: Nuclear Weapons Proliferation
Document Eight: Lawrence Radiation Laboratory, University of California, Livermore, "Summary Report of the NTH Country Experiment," W. J. Frank, ed., March 1967. Original classification: secret. [extract of heavily excised document]
This report describes an experiment that took place at a time when policymakers wanted to know how difficult it would be for a non-nuclear power to develop a nuclear weapons capability. Lawrence Livermore Laboratory paid two newly-minted physicists, with no access to or knowledge of classified information, to "produce a credible nuclear weapons design." After three "man-years", the two physicists had a design for an implosion nuclear weapon. The report's conclusions remain classified, but apparently the experiment was a success: it showed that any capable physicist could design a nuclear weapon.

Note the date---1967.

Thankfully, most nations don't really want to invest that much in things like omnicide, and planetary death. Howzabout focusing on nations that already have this capability, and who are or are not signatory to the NPT, and who are most certainly not complying with those protocols?

That would be refreshing would it not?


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